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Oats bar for breakfast?

Postby emma_melbourne » Sun 05 Aug, 2018 9:15 am

I am just looking at options of not having to boil water to make coffee and porridge some days of my Overland Track hike, to save fuel / time getting on the trail in the morning, and I'd love some input from experienced hikers on this....

All Natural Bakery Bars Slice Oat Almond & Apricot 100g

Ingredients:
Organic Oats, Organic Wholemeal Wheat Flow, Organically Produced Honey, Organic Coconut, Salt Free Butter (Cream And Water), Almonds (5%), Apricots (5%) (Contains Sulphites) Baking Soda.

https://www.woolworths.com.au/shop/prod ... nd-apricot?

I've attached nutritional info - 1796 kj per serve / per 100 grams. (Bar is 100 grams.)

Is it looking ok to your eyes? Maybe 1.5 bars / 150 gram weight? And I was thinking to do cold coffee with Starbucks Via coffee sachets and some milk powder.
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Re: Oats bar for breakfast?

Postby ILUVSWTAS » Sun 05 Aug, 2018 9:18 am

Have tried these. They are very, very dry. Too dry for me especially first thing in the morning.

I eat weetbix for breakfast. No need to boil, no worries if they get a bit broken up. Easy.
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Re: Oats bar for breakfast?

Postby emma_melbourne » Sun 05 Aug, 2018 9:50 am

Ah that's interesting feedback. Are you having coffee / drink at the same time / while you're having your bar @ILUVSWTAS?

Do you only find it's too dry for breakfast, or also too dry for snacks?
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Re: Oats bar for breakfast?

Postby north-north-west » Sun 05 Aug, 2018 10:06 am

Carmans do a good Oat Bar, too. But there's less faffing around with cold muesli and water. Why cook when you don't need to?
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Re: Oats bar for breakfast?

Postby matagi » Sun 05 Aug, 2018 10:16 am

Why not just soak your oats overnight in reconstituted powdered milk, then add dried fruit and nuts in the morning? No cooking required.

Personally, I could not function without a hot strongly caffeinated beverage in the morning so my fuel calculations always take that into account.
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Re: Oats bar for breakfast?

Postby ILUVSWTAS » Sun 05 Aug, 2018 10:20 am

Yes I am the same with coffee. always have 2 in the morning. Cant function without them.

And yes i've had those bars as snacks as well. They are quite tasty, just too dry for me.
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Re: Oats bar for breakfast?

Postby Neo » Sun 05 Aug, 2018 4:17 pm

I save plastic jars and put muesli and a few spoons of milk powder in them. For breakfast just add water and shake. Could add warm water and use any cereal. Aldi muesli and the clusters are quiet nice, berrys in the latter are a nice touch and make the milk pink :)

No washing up, just a rinse. Can then use the jar for making milk, coconut milk or for rubbish.

I also like the 'baked oaty slices' in choc or choc orange, or just a cuppa and a few biscuits.
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Re: Oats bar for breakfast?

Postby Neo » Sun 05 Aug, 2018 4:43 pm

Here is a pic of the oaty chocolate orange I mentioned above. Less than half of everything, but including less fat & sodium. Also one bar is a bit less than half of the OP bar, so quite similar.

Usual supermarket schenannigans, they used to be two for $4 and now are occasionally on special for $3 per box (6 bars).

So many ingredients though!
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Re: Oats bar for breakfast?

Postby Huntsman247 » Sun 05 Aug, 2018 6:43 pm

Nut bar for breakfast... That just sounds depressing.

Why not just put the stove on and keep packing up gear? Stop and eat when it's boiling then continue packing? To just bring water to boil you aren't using that much fuel.
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Re: Oats bar for breakfast?

Postby Trundlers » Fri 10 Aug, 2018 8:00 pm

We find that when we multi-day walk we aren't that hungry, so we favour one of the following for breakfast: nut bar or some sort of muesli bar or nature valley almond butter bar. Along with a nice strong cup of tea or coffee. We supplement this with high energy dried fruit such as dates or dried tropical fruits from Tropical Harvest (Qld fruit from Tully).
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Re: Oats bar for breakfast?

Postby wayno » Sat 11 Aug, 2018 6:51 am

if you soak the porridge overnight it cooks very fast in the morning since its already expanded, , or cook it the night before but the consistency in the morning is an aquired taste.
or cook extra food for dinner and leave some for breakfast.
theres "one square meal" bars, that are balanced nutrition with most of the essential nutrients in there in the optimum combination. although they are pretty fatty and i find too much of the slows my digestion down.
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Re: Oats bar for breakfast?

Postby wildwanderer » Mon 13 Aug, 2018 5:06 pm

Carmans fruit and nut muesli bars. 2 in the morning washed down with a coffee or two and Im good to go.

https://www.carmanskitchen.com.au/our-p ... esli-bars/

Pro tip. When you wake up put two bars in your sleeping bag (along with your gas canistar). While your doing your morning trip to the toilet/change clothes etc etc, the remaining heat in the bag will warm the bars so they will not be hard (as happens in the cold). and the warmth will help the gas canistar operate more efficently also so your less likely to have left over (unuseable) gas at the end of the trip.
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Re: Oats bar for breakfast?

Postby GPSGuided » Mon 13 Aug, 2018 5:25 pm

north-north-west wrote:Carmans do a good Oat Bar, too. But there's less faffing around with cold muesli and water. Why cook when you don't need to?

Another +1 on the Carmans bars. Easy for mornings as well as en-route (as well as on bike rides). Been buying them in boxes from Costco for a while now.
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Re: Oats bar for breakfast?

Postby jdeks » Mon 13 Aug, 2018 6:06 pm

One of my guilty pleasures when I hike in winter is watching the hungry looks from all the other hikers round camp in the morning, as they choke down their little UHT milk cartons and GrainBricks and bowls of InstantGruel, while I fry up a steak and bacon sandwich and a hot coco. :twisted:

Not saying steak is the best option and everyone should always eat a steak sandwich for breakfast on every hike. Just dont assume food in bar-form is the only appropriate choice. Most of them are reeeal heavy on processed grain and sugar, which tends to burn off pretty quick and leaves you eating more for lunch, so a bit of a false economy in terms of weight. As far as calorie density goes, fat still reigns supreme, and if there's any ever an excuse to pound down the calories, it's walking 12 hours a day.

But then it's only a short hike so you can probably get away with anything, really. Personally I'd also ditch the coffee for a bundle of reasons but it doesn't really matter than much and if it makes you happy then why not?
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Re: Oats bar for breakfast?

Postby wildwanderer » Tue 14 Aug, 2018 7:41 pm

jdeks wrote:Personally I'd also ditch the coffee for a bundle of reasons but it doesn't really matter than much and if it makes you happy then why not?

:lol: I could never ditch the coffee. Essential for my sanity and the health and safety of my walking companions.


jdeks wrote:
Not saying steak is the best option and everyone should always eat a steak sandwich for breakfast on every hike. Just dont assume food in bar-form is the only appropriate choice...


A breakfast fry up is great and Id have it all the time if I could. For me muesli bars work because they are quick and no mess. I often need to depart camp before 8am and I dont like getting up when its cold and still dark so eliminating breakfast prep and post breakfast clean up = more time in the sleeping bag. :D
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Re: Oats bar for breakfast?

Postby Hiking Noob » Tue 14 Aug, 2018 10:06 pm

You only need a week off coffee and you are back to being a normal, less volatile and more wealthy human. You also need less water in the day and you may need to consume a few less calories as you aren't bumping up your HR for no real reason.

I quite like the Carman's bars but I was amazed at how little Aus grown produce is in them especially considering the price compared to some other bars, two other brands come from NZ and Spain so I guess Carman's are still better for the local economy. I made my own nut, seed chocolate bars for the OLT, they were very dense and energy rich, taste nice too.

My hiking chum liked a coffee and porridge and I found it really annoying because I like to get packed up and moving quickly and it was my stove and pot, hahaha!
I like toasted muesli as it keeps me full longer than any other cereal I have tried, this is my favourite, nicer than all the fancy ones(for me anyway)- https://shop.coles.com.au/a//product/co ... d-original
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Re: Oats bar for breakfast?

Postby Warin » Tue 14 Aug, 2018 10:54 pm

Hiking Noob wrote:My hiking chum liked a coffee and porridge and I found it really annoying because I like to get packed up and moving quickly

I find cleaning up after porridge is rather messy and that further delays things. But if you want something warm?
The 'instant' Aldi porridge I have takes 1 minute in boiling water .. say 4 minutes all up, pretty quick for a hot breky.
Hiking Noob wrote:I like toasted muesli as it keeps me full longer than any other cereal I have tried, this is my favourite, nicer than all the fancy ones(for me anyway)- https://shop.coles.com.au/a//product/co ... d-original

Agree with muesli as a faster alternative to porridge. You can even eat it dry.
The link to Coles toasted muesli did not work for me ..
this might be better?
https://shop.coles.com.au/a/a-national/ ... d-original
humm 1,850 kj per 100 g
My previous kj per 100g selection was
https://www.woolworths.com.au/shop/prod ... al-delight
at 1,670 kj per 100 g
and it is fairly tasty, but the Coles one wins the energy density battle. So I'll have to try it.
Hey .. it even has less salt .. a lot less salt - 4 times less. Coles looks like a winner.

For a 'normal' type breakfast I put some powered milk in with the muesli .. shake it around .. then put in water and shake that around. By distributing the milk powder it combines with the water better rather than forming clumps. It is slower than the muesli bars but more like a 'real' breakfast. :) And way less salt.
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Re: Oats bar for breakfast?

Postby Hiking Noob » Wed 15 Aug, 2018 12:10 am

Hmmm, I'd never looked at the energy before, I have been eating 100g of that and three or four Weet Bix every day at home. The Weet Bix do nothing to keep me full so I might cut them out as they add 10% to my daily energy intake, a bit more with delicious 5% fat milk :)
Might just add some more nuts to the Coles Muesli to up the protein a bit, it does have a bit of sugar but the cinnamon makes it taste sweeter that you'd expect it to. Just had a look at Just Right for curiosity's sake, it is almost 29% sugar and has less energy per gram, there is quite a bit to reading the food labels

Thanks Warin, I didn't realise I had a local Coles site.
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Re: Oats bar for breakfast?

Postby Huntsman247 » Wed 15 Aug, 2018 8:20 am

Warin wrote:I find cleaning up after porridge is rather messy and that further delays things.


I make my own mix out of quick oats and ingredients of my liking and mix it up in a ziplock bag (bpa free one) then pour hot water in the bag. Wait 1min. Eat then zip up bag. No clean up. And you only need one boil and you've got water for cuppa and porridge.
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Re: Oats bar for breakfast?

Postby wildwanderer » Wed 15 Aug, 2018 9:37 am

No no no the coles toasted muesli is awful stuff. Don’t buy it!

It occasionally goes out of stock so I cant have anyone else contributing to demand! Its all mine! :mrgreen:
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Re: Oats bar for breakfast?

Postby Warin » Wed 15 Aug, 2018 1:43 pm

wildwanderer wrote:No no no the coles toasted muesli is awful stuff. Don’t buy it!

It occasionally goes out of stock so I cant have anyone else contributing to demand! Its all mine! :mrgreen:


:twisted: Too late now. I can see it vanishing off the shelf like baby formula!
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