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Trail camera

Postby Franco » Wed 28 Mar, 2018 9:46 am

Just in case anyone is thinking of purchasing a trail camera, here are some photos from mine to maybe get a better idea of what to expect at a particular price point.
Aldi recently advertised a "12MP " trail camera at $129. I had a look at the specs and found that there are several vendors for the exact same camera at anything from $65 USD (do not ship to AU...) to $169.
I bought one from a local vendor ( on EBay) for $98 inc postage.
It arrived in 4 days.
One of the versions of that camera :
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As I knew already, the 12MP bit is the interpolated image. The sensor is 5MP and that is , according to the manual, the best setting for it ( totally the opposite of the typical ad blurb..)
Anyway , it works but I have noticed that several times it has been triggered but was not fast enough to capture the triggeree (!)
Some un-retouched shots from it .
Me going for a walk with the cat :
Trail-cam-me-s.jpg

Blondie, a very small fox that happens to be almost all blond, no red .
IR-Blondie-s.jpg

A young male. This one seems to be by himself most of the time. I see him occasionally during the day :
IR-roo-s.jpg

Both that particular roo and Blondie have been captured several times. Another fox made an appearance (typical red fox) as well as a pair of beagles, at 6:30 PM, that I don't know were they come from.
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Re: Trail camera

Postby Franco » Wed 28 Mar, 2018 5:53 pm

BTW, this is the one :
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/201998475529
as mentioned, it is sold under many different brands. They all look exactly the same so it should not be difficulty to tell it is the same camera.
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Re: Trail camera

Postby Nuts » Fri 30 Mar, 2018 1:12 pm

On your place?, leave something smelly & pauseworthy in front? :)
It's interesting to see how natives (and ferals) use make use of the same trails.
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Re: Trail camera

Postby Franco » Sat 31 Mar, 2018 8:22 am

No , I don't want to use any baits, the same as I don't feed the birds just to take some photos.
Foxes have been eating all the pears up to about 1 meter off the ground. That is inside the enclosed orchard but there is a small gap in the gate . Too small for the roos but not for foxes and rabbits.
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Re: Trail camera

Postby Nuts » Sat 31 Mar, 2018 4:00 pm

I wasn't exactly thinking 'bait' but I guess that is what it would be, some essence on a twig.
When i first played around with trail cams the target was the dog, found plucking blackberries off the lower rows. (thornless /domestic type, not growing weeds :) )
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Re: Trail camera

Postby Ms_Mudd » Tue 17 Apr, 2018 8:49 am

Franco wrote:
Trail-cam-me-s.jpg



Edit: I wanted to attach the image of the sleek black feline, but failed. Oh dear.

Panther!!!!! :P

Nice quality images, looks like a good camera. Go Aldi.
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Re: Trail camera

Postby Franco » Sat 21 Apr, 2018 12:34 pm

BTW, this camera is not the Aldi branded one but the same camera with a different brand on it.
There are several sellers/brands for it.
I paid $99, the Aldi version was $130.
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Re: Trail camera

Postby blakey_ » Sat 21 Apr, 2018 2:49 pm

I was looking at trail cams vs a raspberry pi zerow build for doing motion triggered & time lapse wildlife captures. Good to see some real sample shots to get an idea of sensor quality. 5MP is fine for downsampling and putting together FHD timelapse videos. Slow lens at ƒ3.1 though.

The one you linked appears to have an intervalometer function (5sec to 24hr interval), is that correct?

The slow trigger is probably an issue for capturing birds though.
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Re: Trail camera

Postby Franco » Sat 21 Apr, 2018 5:33 pm

The interval timer is for the time it takes between photos.(from 1 sec to 60 min)
So if you set 1 sec it will take another photo , if triggered, in 1 sec (sort of...) after the first one, but if you set 30 minutes it will not take another shot till at least 30 min have passed. So basically is a way to preset the minimum delay between photos.
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Re: Trail camera

Postby blakey_ » Sun 22 Apr, 2018 11:19 am

Ah, bummer, I was hoping for triggered or interval operation modes. Thanks for clearing that up for me. Maybe a Pi is the way to go after all.

So the quoted "5sec to 24hr" interval isn't a thing (vs 1sec to 30min trigger delay) at all?
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Re: Trail camera

Postby tastrax » Sun 22 Apr, 2018 12:06 pm

Have a look at this site - there are heaps of different cameras for specific purposes.

http://www.trailcameras.com.au/

If set at one second delay then a camera will normally take an image every second whilst something is still in view and only stop when nothing is there versus 30 seconds in which case it would take a shot every thirty seconds whilst something was in view.

I think some will do a 'burst of pictures' for a period of time before the reset. I am not sure that many do sub second intervals. If you are just after straight timelapse then cameras like the Garmin Virb will do that, but with no trigger to set them off - just on or off..

I gather you are wanting to do a timelapse (say once an hour) AS WELL AS any triggered images (once a second whilst triggered) - I am not sure any do that
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Re: Trail camera

Postby blakey_ » Sun 22 Apr, 2018 12:33 pm

I'd be happy with timelapse/intervalometer OR motion triggered operation modes.

For some reason I hadn't even thought about action cameras, they'll have much better lenses/sensors. Will look up some specs for intervalometer / battery life / weatherproofness.
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Re: Trail camera

Postby tastrax » Sun 22 Apr, 2018 1:07 pm

Lots of suggestions for these types of cameras at Mapillary forum - the good, bad, downright ugly, cheap, expensive, great resolution, 360 degrees... they are all there!

https://forum.mapillary.com/c/tools

https://www.mapillary.com/app/user/tast ... 4830799268
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Re: Trail camera

Postby Franco » Mon 23 Apr, 2018 11:59 am

Yes that interval timer does not work like a standard camera interval timer.
You can set my camera to take from 1 to 3 photos every time it is triggered.
With the interval timer you are telling the camera not to take another single/sequence for ...anything from 1 sec to 60 minutes but it is possible that the range is extended with versions sold under another brand.
From the photo I have seen I think that the Reconyx are the best but are also 10x the cost of mine.
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Re: Trail camera

Postby Franco » Wed 09 May, 2018 9:26 am

This is the other fox. About twice the size of Blondie the fox I posted above.
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Re: Trail camera

Postby Franco » Tue 05 Jun, 2018 9:50 am

captured this one last night.
It looks like a fox cub in one but a cat in the other.
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smaller than Blondie, the small fox I posted above (not the last one...)
Any suggestions ?
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Re: Trail camera

Postby Neo » Fri 08 Jun, 2018 9:08 pm

Big ears and thick tail, I'd say fox. Maybe this one's a bit smaller.
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Re: Trail camera

Postby Franco » Sat 09 Jun, 2018 9:06 am

Yes , I think so.
The tip of ears are at about 33cm , measured against a piece of bark that sticks out from one of those trees.
so this means I have at least 3 foxes roaming at my place.
not much bigger than a rabbit :
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Re: Trail camera

Postby Franco » Fri 15 Jun, 2018 11:48 am

still can't get the mystery animal but a fox stopped for a pee
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