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Fibre in concentrated rations query

Postby Moondog55 » Fri 23 Feb, 2018 9:22 am

We older folk sometimes need an extra dose of All-Bran so to speak
In the coming weeks I will be starting my winter food prep and I will be making up a big batch of Chockolate Kram.
While my usual mix contains desiccated coconut, toasted rolled oats and lots of chopped nuts and dried fruit it is still basically sugar, milk powder and fat with cocoa powder added so this year i was thinking about adding some of that invisible fibre old people use "Benefiber" I've been using it along with psyllium at my GPs suggestion for a while now in another bullet in the magazine to help with blood pressure and cholesterol control
Any thoughts on ratios and any other thoughts such as substituting Hospital Sustagen for the milk powder for the added vitamins?
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Re: Fibre in concentrated rations query

Postby Warin » Fri 23 Feb, 2018 9:39 am

I have not tried this .. yet.
But coconut milk powder rather than milk powder? Has more kj. I'm not certain of the taste though. If you have coconut already then if might be an overload.

Fiber? Umm I'm trying some prunes - they are in the fridge with some port, chili flakes, cinnamon, cloves .. forgot nutmeg. Should be ok to test in a weeks time, hopefully tasty for the nights desert.
Fruits are fairly good for fiber. I do like apricots .. so maybe some of them marinated would be good too .. chose some nice spirit?
{edit ... brandy .. a Dutch thing apparently or Moscato & Thyme for a wine treatment ... I'd go brandy}
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Re: Fibre in concentrated rations query

Postby ribuck » Fri 23 Feb, 2018 2:20 pm

Kiwi Fruit is sugar, fibre, plus all the right enzymes to keep things moving. Hard to go wrong with prunes though.
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Re: Fibre in concentrated rations query

Postby Warin » Sat 03 Mar, 2018 9:54 am

I put too much chilli in the port mix with the prunes ... makes it difficult to judge the rest.
But they are good eating never the less. Must make the next batch so they are ready when these run out.
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Re: Fibre in concentrated rations query

Postby Moondog55 » Fri 09 Mar, 2018 2:15 pm

Watch out for the after burn.
I think I will add some extra fibre to the Kram this year, not a lot but a hundred grams in the batch, and this seasons batch should be about 5 kilos or so. I will be roasting the rolled oats for the new batch, I seem to be developing a sensitivity to under cooked oats. After due though and consideration I did buy a tin of Hospital grade Sustagen, just in case I lack micro-nutrients in my general easy cook diet this winter
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Re: Fibre in concentrated rations query

Postby Moondog55 » Tue 01 May, 2018 7:42 am

Walking though Safeway with Cecile the other day I realised that the easiest way to do this is just crumble breakfast cereal into the mix. So much easier than roasting my own oats.
If only Whittakers would make a bushwalkers Muesli type chockolate bar.
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Re: Fibre in concentrated rations query

Postby Orion » Tue 01 May, 2018 8:43 am

"Chockolate Kram"?

That sounds like the problem, not the solution.
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Re: Fibre in concentrated rations query

Postby CasualNerd » Wed 02 May, 2018 4:33 pm

What about psyllium etc ? Even some flavoured Metamucil ?

It's pretty much pure fibre
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Re: Fibre in concentrated rations query

Postby Warin » Thu 03 May, 2018 7:08 am

CasualNerd wrote:What about psyllium etc ? Even some flavoured Metamucil ?

It's pretty much pure fibre


Benefibre - 3.8 grams for 3 grams of fibre .. I cannot taste it in water.
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Re: Fibre in concentrated rations query

Postby Moondog55 » Wed 09 May, 2018 3:48 pm

I decided against the Benefibre. I did think seriously about it but the combination of Nutrigrain plus coconut, almond flakes and pecans and dried fruits should be enough. This year I changed a few other things too, I used powdered glucose rather than black sugar because it is more easily converted to energy and it is less cloying on the tongue and palate and I left out the dates for the same reason substituting banana chips. When it cools down and gone solid I'll portion it up. I may even vacuum seal it using our new kitchen toy
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Re: Fibre in concentrated rations query

Postby Moondog55 » Fri 18 May, 2018 5:59 pm

Sorry for not taking pix, but it was all cut and vacuum packed when I thought of it.
This years batch is still super sweet but that is the instant energy part of it, not as sweet as a Mars bar tho; packed in 120 gram portions wrapped in kitchen paper before being vacuum bagged. Free samples to anybody who visits me
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Re: Fibre in concentrated rations query

Postby jaz » Thu 24 May, 2018 12:42 pm

I'm not sure about the official content figures, but I find chia seeds really keep things moving.
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Re: Fibre in concentrated rations query

Postby ChrisJHC » Wed 06 Jun, 2018 7:58 am

There was a segment on the ABC News this morning about "Broccoli lattes" - basically using powdered broccoli instead of coffee:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/rural/2018-0 ... ch/9834964
They freeze dry the broccoli then powder it.

It claims that this is a good way to add fibre to your diet (plus all the other good things in broccoli).

A quick search will find commercial suppliers of powdered broccoli and other fruits/vegies.
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Re: Fibre in concentrated rations query

Postby Moondog55 » Wed 06 Jun, 2018 9:23 am

OMG Simply awful thought, having once made the mistake of eating FD broccoli and regretting it for days afterwards I can't imagine much worse.
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Re: Fibre in concentrated rations query

Postby Orion » Wed 06 Jun, 2018 11:07 am

Don't know about the freeze dried version but dehydrated broccoli has become a staple item in our bushwalking menu. It mostly keeps its shape but by the end there are a lot of the little green spheres (what are those called?) in the bottom of the ziplock. Good stuff, easy to rehydrate, and very tasty ------ **IF** you like broccoli. If you hate broccoli then there is no way to prepare it that will appease you. Certainly not as a substitute for coffee.
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Re: Fibre in concentrated rations query

Postby ChrisJHC » Wed 06 Jun, 2018 12:05 pm

I wasn't really thinking of it as a coffee substitute.
Maybe adding a couple of spoonfuls to your evening dinner if you're worried about getting enough fibre (as per the original post).
Similarly a couple of spoonfuls of powdered fruit with your breakfast of choice.
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Re: Fibre in concentrated rations query

Postby Moondog55 » Wed 06 Jun, 2018 1:03 pm

I like fresh broccoli cooked properly [ that is just barely and still crunchy] but the FD stuff I tried meant I had to walk and ski alone for days afterwards due to clouds of foul sulphur hanging around me, not at all the reaction I have to the fresh vegetable
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