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A place to chat about gear and the philosphy of ultralight. Ultralight bushwalking or backpacking focuses on carrying the lightest and simplest kit. There is still a good focus on safety and skill.

Forum rules

Ultralight Bushwalking/backpacking is about more than just gear lists. Ultralight walkers carefully consider gear based on the environment they are entering, the weather forecast, their own skill, other people in the group. Gear and systems are tested and tweaked.
If you are new to this area then welcome - Please remember that although the same ultralight philosophy can be used in all environments that the specific gear and skill required will vary greatly. It is very dangerous to assume that you can just copy someone else's gear list, but you are encouraged to ask questions, learn and start reducing the pack weight and enjoying the freedom that comes.

Common words
Base pack backpacking the mass of the backpack and the gear inside - not including consumables such as food, water and fuel
light backpacking base weight less than 9.1kg
ultralight backpacking base weight less than 4.5kg
super-ultralight backpacking base weight less than 2.3kg
extreme-ultralight backpacking base weight less than 1.4kg
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Helinox fl120 walking poles

Wed 15 May, 2019 11:02 am


Anyone own/use a pair of these? Right size for me.

I'm attracted to the weight. Will mainly be used to help out with difficult track sections and to support a shelter. I don't normally walk with poles. Pack weight at its absolute heaviest is 14 kg.

Are they a bit flimsy?



Re: Helinox fl120 walking poles

Thu 16 May, 2019 10:11 pm

Im confident any Helinox product will be strong for purpose.

I have lbb poles, still going strong after a few years.
Groundchair busted, many sits though so didn't chase a warranty.
Also have the newer light/small umbrella, a recent purchase .

Re: Helinox fl120 walking poles

Fri 17 May, 2019 3:09 pm

Hi Neo,

Thanks for that.

I have a chair zero and one of their umbrellas, awesome gear.

I think I'll just grab a pair.


Re: Helinox fl120 walking poles

Fri 29 Nov, 2019 7:12 pm

Hi Pete, sorry I just saw this. I have the FL120 poles and love them. They haven’t missed a beat and I found the adjustable length useful when switching between generally flat/ uphill (propel), and downhill (brake). Helinox have a guide on how to use poles that I found useful; I’m yet to see anyone else on a trail use them the same way.

Re: Helinox fl120 walking poles

Tue 03 Dec, 2019 1:38 pm

Hi shehall,

I ended up with the heavier FL 135, nicely made, just wanted something a bit burlier.

Re: Helinox fl120 walking poles

Fri 07 Feb, 2020 9:26 am

Hi Petew,
What has been your experience with the FL 135's ? Trying to work out if they are worth the extra $$ over the Fuzan Campact 3's ?? I'm about 6ft too

Re: Helinox fl120 walking poles

Sun 09 Feb, 2020 7:47 pm

They are pretty well made and solid. Lighter than a lot of carbon poles. I don't normally use trekking poles but bought them for a mid winter OT walk last year. Much less flexible than the FL 120 and usable with a zpacks duplex which we had along. They were handy for peak bagging in the snow. Another plus is if you break something helinox is able to replace parts.
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